By bonlebon
via linux.sys-con.com
Published: Jan 23 2007 / 05:08
By bonlebon
via linux.sys-con.com
Published: Jan 23 2007 / 05:08
Comments
Ricky Clarkson replied ago:
A good talking point, even if there's not a lot of substance to the article. It's a shame sys-con has gone to the lengths of in-page popups and adverts with sound. Can't they tell it affects their online readership?
bloid replied ago:
sys-con has the most annoying adverts of any site...
clintonforbes replied ago:
I agree. I was almost put off reading the article altogether. Alas my employer has started putting these annoying video ads on our flagship site. Then they wonder why traffic falls.
mfsx complained ago:
mfsx reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 05:42:15
"The C#, C++, and C compilers are now free, although not obviously as optimized as the professional edition."
- What?
"The .NET platform has been under constant development, often too fast for many corporate users to adopt."
- Documentation, stats? What is this based on?
"Looking at the forums, Visual C++ and Visual Basic and not C# attract the lion's share of the forum attention."
- Where? I have the opposite experience. Are you only looking in C++ and VB forums?
This article is almost like those inaccurate/idiotic articles from Oracle a while back. (See http://www.oracle.com/technology/pub/columns/hull_php2.html)
Lets see some facts and objectivity.
donnib complained ago:
donnib reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 06:02:35
I agree with mfsx..
lets see some facts
lilspikey replied ago:
grrr. again I have managed to click on the vote link - when I was going for complain!!
the adverts on that site are ridiculous.
bscarr complained ago:
bscarr reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 07:12:29
Partisan, biased, inaccurate and FUD.
Annoying adverts too.
mbrewer complained ago:
mbrewer reported this link as lame on 01/23/2007 @ 09:01:03
ANNOYING ADVERTS!!!!
njbartlett complained ago:
njbartlett reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 10:05:19
I'm a Java supporter, but it's still obvious that this is pure unsubstantiated FUD.
hoack complained ago:
hoack reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 10:30:59
The article is biased, and has no factual data. To say more, in many cases the article is just plain wrong.
jacat complained ago:
jacat reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 10:33:34
jamesstaylor complained ago:
jamesstaylor reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 11:19:57
What a joke.
elmo complained ago:
elmo reported this link as just plain old lame in the mainframe on 01/23/2007 @ 11:25:52
and annoying ads...
Lowell Heddings complained ago:
lowellheddings reported this link as lame on 01/23/2007 @ 11:39:49
Way too many advertisements... with sound. Enter at your own risk.
jrgehlha replied ago:
ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims
claymore complained ago:
claymore reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 12:55:59
definitely based on the author's extremely limited experiance
jojotdfb complained ago:
jojotdfb reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 02:31:58
Not only is this very wrong, it's also a bit old. The rebuttle at the bottom is dated Aug. 16, 2005. Looks like a repost of some pre-ASP.NET 2.0 jitters.
p3tar complained ago:
p3tar reported this link as inaccurate on 01/23/2007 @ 02:48:37
Inaccurate and kinda funny. Why I cant see the future?
anamanaman replied ago:
Yeah, this article is way way off the mark(dugg it anyways). .NET seems to me right now the #1 platform for new projects and job opportunities. I've been using it for 4 years and mostly happy with it, even though I've found tons more personal interest and satisfaction using Rails.
Still with the huge progress MS is making every year, .NET represents the best opportunity for current developers looking for longterm growth.
murban replied ago:
Well, I can't say I agree that .NET is the #1 platform for new job opporunities. Most of the tech job sites still have Java ahead by a fair amount. dice.com for example, has approx. 15,000 Java job listings, but only 10,000 .net listings. In fact, .net opportunities are actually down a bit from a few months ago on dice.com.
So it seems the #1 platform is still Java. Not .net.
kenman replied ago:
No problems with adverts here at all......love my Firefox NoScript extension!!!
nkohari complained ago:
nkohari reported this link as lame on 01/23/2007 @ 09:22:26
What a pile of crap. What else can be said about this joke of an article?
jwenting complained ago:
jwenting reported this link as inaccurate on 01/24/2007 @ 02:44:20
While a welcome change from the daily "Java is dead" post we've seen for the last decade or so, it's just as inaccurate as all of those (if not more so in places).
Add the extremely annoying syscon marketing strategy of bombarding users with so many ads that the actual content is next to invisible (one has to wonder if the actual content isn't hidden advertising as well of course).
jwenting replied ago:
""The C#, C++, and C compilers are now free, although not obviously as optimized as the professional edition."
- What? "
What indeed. They're the exact same binaries. Only things missing are maybe some optional libraries and the IDE (with debuggers and stuff).
You get even (a subset of) the product documentation for free.
""The .NET platform has been under constant development, often too fast for many corporate users to adopt."
- Documentation, stats? What is this based on? "
It is a fact that many companies are still coding to .NET 1.1, but that doesn't mean C# adoption is hampered by the relatively rapid development of the language.
I don't see Java suffering from Sun releasing 6 versions in 10 years either, despite many users by now being working with versions that are 5 years old.
""Looking at the forums, Visual C++ and Visual Basic and not C# attract the lion's share of the forum attention."
- Where? I have the opposite experience. Are you only looking in C++ and VB forums? "
I do notice that, but it's in part at least because a) VB users tend to be less experienced "programmers" who need a lot more handholding (same reason there are so many questions from schoolkids in Java forums, many schools use it for elementary programming classes) and b) C++ is so much more complex than is C# that there just are many more people requiring help with it (in part also because many inexperienced kids are lured to it by dreams of building the next killer game in their bedroom and they've been told all games are written in C++).
C# tends to be the domain of more mature, experienced, programmers who have other ways to get elementary questions (and not so elementary questions) answered than begging for help in a public forum.
ra17740 replied ago:
Well, even as a Java developer, I have to say:
'Show me the evidence'
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