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Published: Dec 20 2008 / 22:22

The first example (a sort of Hello World/Earth program) in Jim Weaver et al's upcoming Pro JavaFX book.
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bloid replied ago:

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I really wish people would stop doing "examples" like these. It looks awful, and doesn't work right on OS X (the right of the text is clipped)

Surely for a RIA, we should be getting "Rich" examples?

I would love to see JavaFX do well, but the current crop of examples are just poor in my opinion, and I'm sick of them trying to create shortcuts on my desktop. Why would I want a shortcut to this?

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Jim Weaver replied ago:

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"I really wish people would stop doing "examples" like these. It looks awful, and doesn't work right on OS X (the right of the text is clipped)
Surely for a RIA, we should be getting "Rich" examples? I would love to see JavaFX do well, but the current crop of examples are just poor in my opinion, and I'm sick of them trying to create shortcuts on my desktop. Why would I want a shortcut to this?"

bloid,

Thanks for your input. I'll test this on OS/X and fix the clipping problem. I'll also stop it from prompting for creating a shortcut. Can you suggest some ideas for rich examples for which the code will fit in an article (or perhaps it would be fine to show just some interesting parts of the code in richer examples?

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

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bloid replied ago:

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Hi Jim, sorry about that previous comment, I have read it back to myself and I come across as an arse :-(

I really didn't mean to be having a go at you, or the JavaFX community, but I get frustrated sometimes when demos are released for a platform that I don't feel look that great. The sorts of things I would love to see are like those Romain Guy and Chet Haase used to do for their Filthy Rich Clients "tour".

After suffering the years of people taking a sideways pop at Java for its supposedly awful LAF (mostly due to poor programming with people doing processing on the EDT, or updating the UI off of it), it was nice to see demos and applications that made people ignore what it was written in, and just be drawn in by the visuals.

I can't for the moment think of anything that would fit into a tutorial, I just worry that people will turn away from or ignore JavaFX, as they do not have the foresight to take a tutorial such as this and run with it into something awe inspiring

Tim

PS: Thanks for the shortcut thing, I wish there was a way to set thing up my end that I didn't want to have a desktop icon ever (with maybe a menu option I could click to create one when I want it)

PPS: I *really* hope that reads ok, it's hard to tell in this small box, and to be an arse twice in one thread wouldn't do at all ;-)

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Jim Weaver replied ago:

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"The sorts of things I would love to see are like those Romain Guy and Chet Haase used to do for their Filthy Rich Clients 'tour'."

No worries, Tim. I know that your feedback is in the spirit of being helpful and wanting to show JavaFX in its best light. I really appreciate your candor and take your input seriously. I'm trying to hone in on what developers want to see in JavaFX examples in the blog and upcoming book. So far, my impression is that JavaFX needs to demonstrate its ability to enable "filthy-rich" and iPhone-style UIs for enterprise applications. I'm looking for feedback from anyone here.

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

Thanks,
Jim Weaver

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