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So any skill worth learning must still take less than a day? I feel your pain, but still feel I must tease you :)

So you are better capable with a tool you use for over a year than a tool you used for less than a day, using a completely new framework as well? The first error is simply missing an commons logging component, because you did not read the Spring instructions, and is not a problem with Eclipse. I also like what Netbeans is doing, but this kind of criticism is pretty short sighted.

Hi david and ph80065,

This is not a short sighted approach. One fact I forgot to mention was the first time as a beginner I tried using Eclipse (not Europa) I wasn't feeling like working in it. That made me to adopt NetBeans. In fact I loved BEA Weblogic 8.1 Workshop IDE which was similar to NetBeans. I just wanted to see if Eclipse Europa could change my opinion about it. But it didnt. Honestly I feel an IDE should have the first impression in ease of use and in my case as a beginner I don't feel so. NetBeans gave me the impression that a beginner would want for. Even Spring was the first time in NetBeans but it ran without any complains. So all these reasons I feel Eclipse lacks the ease of use perspective.

And I feel when you think of RAD, you think of an easy IDE. I can use Ant, but it requires a lot of other work which would lose focus on the actual work being done. Hope you understand.

Eclipse as RAD tools?

I don't think its Eclipse's goal to be a RAD tool though (at least not with the plain vanilla releases).

I guess its better for you to use Netbeans though if you are looking for a RAD tool.

Eclipse as RAD tools?

I don't think its Eclipse's goal to be a RAD tool though (at least not with the plain vanilla releases).

I guess its better for you to use Netbeans though if you are looking for a RAD tool.

Hi Fadzlan,

Then for what purpose would you choose Eclipse as an IDE if not for RAD activites?