By CodeJustin
via mashable.com
Published: Jul 19 2009 / 19:25
Just six years ago, the web was dominated by one browser: Internet ExplorerInternet ExplorerInternet Explorer, specifically Internet Explorer 6. Without Netscape to compete against it and the ability to bundle its browser with Windows XP, Microsoft experienced superior market share ā up to 95% at the peak. Today though, we have far superior browsers like FirefoxFirefoxFirefox, SafariSafariSafari, OperaOperaOpera, and ChromeChromeChrome, as well as Internet Explorer 8.



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BlueBoden replied ago:
IE6 has been dead since IE7 was released, at least if you are serious about your work.
SenatorPerry replied ago:
I develop for IE6. Thank for pointing out I suck.
How about you just admit that you aren't going to motivate me to update my web browser unless you develop a killer application? Do that and you will discover that end-users are not your customers at all. You are their customer and you either offer up a product that meets their needs or you stop getting their views.
Miloskov replied ago:
Thanks to IE6 the internet innovation have been stagnate for about 10 years, Look how many tricks of Javascript and CSS we have to do for it works not just because another browsers but because the bugs that IE6 have and it does not follow any standard.
It is time for die this crap of browser. let it go bro.
BlueBoden replied ago:
I don't need to motivate you by creating anything, you likely will figure that out sooner or later. Most serious players are phasing out support for older browsers as i write. Its only a matter of time!
Besides, IE6 doesn't support web standards, hence it requires extensive browser specific knowledge to get anything to work in the browser. Its support for CSS 2.1 is awful, and down right broken in key aspects, and that alone requires extensive hacks beyond standards. It was fine for its time, but now that all major browsers, support the standards on a level where they are reliable, it doesn't really pay off to design a separate site for IE6 anymore.
Most users are also willing to update, given that you notify them about the importance of keeping their browser updated. And I'm not talking using some lame security excuse as an argument, you should educate them about web standards, give them some headlines they wont forget easily. It makes perfectly sense to do so, just like adobe doesn't support win9x, we should also stop supporting older browsers.
We are not talking Operating Systems here however, and even Win9x users still got an alternative to IE5/6, that's called Opera. But that's not the point, a Browser is much easier to update then a OS, Users should Update their Browser, just like they would update flash, or any other piece of software important to them. If they refuse to do this, then obviously the website in question cant be important enough to them, and then they just save us bandwidth, hopefully anyway.
Using IE6 is just ignorant, it has nothing to do with "user preference", they just need to understand why they should update. The only way they will do that, is if we tell them about it. Because honestly, most users dont know about standards, and don't care to find out before something breaks. Those ignorant will continiue, while the rest will just update their browser and be done with it.
SenatorPerry replied ago:
"Using IE6 is just ignorant, it has nothing to do with "user preference", they just need to understand why they should update. The only way they will do that, is if we tell them about it. Because honestly, most users dont know about standards, and don't care to find out before something breaks. Those ignorant will continiue, while the rest will just update their browser and be done with it."
You and the other reply hit it right on the head. There is no reason to update. We have several software packages that were written by now defunct companies that are not able to run outside IE6 due to the hacks you mention. We do not have the source code and do not have the legal rights to modify it regardless. We do not have the money to purchase similar products from the competitors. So, we don't update. Others are in the same boat and it isn't because of arrogance or ignorance. It is because IE6 still works for 100% of the stuff we use it for in a business environment.
Back to my original post. Unless you can provide me with a new feature set, other than it is easier for you to develop, then I have no motivation as an end-user to update. This functionality that you get out of IE7 and beyond must be so great that I can justify the expense of updating software. You can't justify this by saying you are going to stop supporting IE6. It needs to be compelling reasoning. Nobody has offered it yet and YouTube, Digg, and other sites aren't going to provide that motivation for employers.
I develop for IE6 and modify code as necessary to support IE8 and develop all applications in PHP and JSP. I suck and also apparently I am ignorant. My recommended approach to killing IE6 would be for you all to develop a website with features/functions that are so valuable to my company that they outweigh the costs of updating to the latest browser and bringing along other applications with it. Also, it can't be your shortfall that it won't run in IE6. That feature must something that is essential to the website that absolutely can't be hacked into running in IE6. That is where people should focus to bring the corporate users in-line with this developer strike.
jdave replied ago:
I read "IE6 must die (something something something)"
BlueBoden replied ago:
You don't have the rights, or the source code? You must be a complete idiot.
The source is open, anyone can edit it. If you didn't get the necessary rights, then don't make same mistake next time you re-design your website.
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