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By polterguy
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Published: Nov 26 2009 / 04:33

About three months ago I was given a task from a customer of us to analyze the Market Shares of Internet Explorer in the hopes of getting data to make end users upgrade from IE6 to hopefully at least IE7, preferably IE8. What I found was pretty stunning to say the least.
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rmac3001 replied ago:

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Too good to be true...

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polterguy replied ago:

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Maybe, maybe not. It has happened before. 10 years ago Netscape was the dominant browser, today it's dead ...
I don't see how IE should be any different ...

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peterstev replied ago:

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Well, yes and no. Netscape the company died. Netscape the browser morphed into Mozilla, which morphed into Firefox.

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mark haniford replied ago:

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IE will die when Windows isn't the dominant desktop - which means basically not in our lifetime. I don't use IE (how many tech people do), but I want it to get better. I'll be happy when we no longer have to support IE6

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Kaveh Shahbazian replied ago:

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mark! I disagree on binding between IE and Windows. That's a rational reason. But everyday I see more and more ordinary users that turn to Firefox for security and speed (especially start up speed) over IE. I said security; but I am not sure that's the reason because most of these people I see and more non-tech ones than pay attention to such things. I think it is more of a phenomena. But it is happening and it is good!

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Kaveh Shahbazian replied ago:

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I meant "I admit that's a rational reason"...Sorry

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polterguy replied ago:

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According to the W3schools data, IE6 dies 12 months from now ;)

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jfernandez replied ago:

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Everyone seems to use W3C's stats. But from their site: "W3Schools is a website for people with an interest for web technologies. These people are more interested in using alternative browsers than the average user."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

IE is far from dead. Most of the author's other conclusions are correct however, no one IE version has highest market share, and the IE market has been steadily declining for years.

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mark haniford replied ago:

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jfernandez, your point is spot on, and something the geek crowd seems to have trouble understanding. "Normal" people typically don't care about standards because web developers have to workaround IE's deficiencies. IE7 and 8 don't have as many security problems as previous versions.

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polterguy replied ago:

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You are right, but normal people cares about whether or not the websites they visit *WORKS* and as IE's share plummets more and more developers will no longer care about supporting it, which means that websites will seem broken with IE. That'll make them change ...

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etoolbox replied ago:

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Or more likely the visitor will go away and never come back. The visitor doesn't know the website doesn't work in the browser they are using and does in some other browser. Half the Internet population doesn't even know what a browser is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ

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polterguy replied ago:

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Well, obviously someone disagrees with you in regards to that observation, ref; http://googlewavedev.blogspot.com/2009/09/google-wave-in-internet-explorer.html

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etoolbox replied ago:

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I don't understand how using Google Chrome Frame disagrees with my observation. Can you please explain?

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polterguy replied ago:

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Google does not support IE, at least not natively, this probably gives an inferior experience, but Google couldn't care less. In addition this makes IE users become *aware* of that they've got an inferior browser, which definitely will "help them to upgrade".
Beside I know several websites that gives IE a "second grade experience", some only IE6, others IEx, take a look at our website through IE (any versions) and you'll see one example...

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polterguy replied ago:

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Hi Fernandez, you are of course completely right in your comment, W3School's visitors are techies which "distorts" the statistics in our direction, but one thing people often forget is that these users - techies - are also innovators and what a techie does, average Joe doe 2 years up the road...

But yes, the blog is 50% prediction and 50% wish thinking ... :)

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hollen949b replied ago:

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Meh, I hate to say it but IE is here to stay. Like it was said "IE will die when Windows isn't the dominant desktop" in other words Mom, Dad, Grandma/pa, Stoner(too lazy to DL a new browser), and people who just don't give a F will continue to use IE. The only time I see this topic brought up is in web development sites, or web trend sites. So really all this tells me is the new tend is Firefox and like all trends they come and go. I think the real question is will Chrome be the death of Firefox.

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polterguy replied ago:

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Interesting argument, and I've definitely heard it before, though most people will not agree with it :)

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mark haniford replied ago:

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The bottom line is that normal person barely even knows what a browser is. They know they click something and then click something else and things pop up.

Let's not kid ourselves

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polterguy replied ago:

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You're probably right, as you say; "They know they click something and then click something else and things pop up".

Though these days they tend to click links link with anchor tests such as; "Do you want faster internet, download Google Chrome" and "Did you know that your current browser is broken? Click any of these to fix your web experience; FireFox, Safari, Opera, Chrome", etc...

You're definitely right, people do "just click". But these days they tend to click other things than they used to click before, and that is a good thing :)

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RawThinkTank replied ago:

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Just kill it damn it

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