I understand if you think that companies doing anything "green" is a marketing ploy, but I must admit it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for businesses. The public wants to see sustainability issues address at all levels, and so asks you to be responsible. If you are not, you are seen as a bad world citizen. If you do, you get naysayers that say you only take action to get a PR boost. Lose, lose.
That said, note we are not just touting our own achievements. We are putting our money where our mouth is and even offsetting carbon emissions of others (travellers for EclipseWorld conference). This involves real dollars being exchanged by us towards addressing these global issues. I would hardly say that's a "do something for the sake of doing it" situation.
Planetary warming and its causes can be argued by people of good faith for extended periods of time. The emphasis here is that we are doing something that helps, something that takes action and real dollars on Genuitec's part.
I would reiterate the challenge posted in the blog in a different form: what are you doing to step up to the plate as an individual or company when it comes to this issue? Or will you simply berate others as disingenuous for attempting to do their part?
Boo. Down with Genuitec for pushing the ball forward for the intellectually bankrupt. Over the last 100 years or so that man has been recording global temperature, the global temperature has increased less than one degree. That's it. That's what this whole "crisis" is about. Now ignore the fact that the earth has been worming ever since the ice age on its own. And ignore the fact that Mars and other planets/moons in our solar system are also warming (gee, I wonder if it is caused by that giant fireball in the sky?). No, no. Man and our CO2 emissions MUST be the cause of the warming... Ummm, even on other planets. Forget that CO2 makes up less that 3% of the total greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and forget that of that 3% man is only responsible for about 3% of that -- a whopping 0.009% total. Forget that CO2 is what trees and plants breath and that the minor increase of CO2 has caused green biomass world wide to increase by over 6%. Yes forget all that. Instead we must frame this debate in a way that makes modern mankind look like the devil and virtual slavery at the hands of brutal taxation as the only solution.
This "debate" over man-made-global-warming is a joke. Let's just call it what it is. It's simply an excuse to advance a political ideology on wealthy nations, and YOU Genuitec are contributing to the cause of misinformation. Way to go.
Needless to say, I'm repulsed by your weakness and ignorance, and have no plans on doing business with a company as lame as yours.
This is obviously an issue you have researched and are passionate about. That's excellent. I really wish more people would be up on their research. As I said previously, we can argue causes and effects of global warming in good faith for extended periods. There may not be a single answer that solves the problem, if there is indeed a human cause.
However, that issue aside, Genuitec is reducing waste of paper, fossil fuels, and emissions. I cannot see how this is a BAD idea from any context. Being conscious of our impact and reducing waste in all its forms is a good idea for everyone, is it not?
We do not purport to be "green crazy," just responsible. Again, I fail to see how saving waste and not emitting pollutions is a bad idea.
As for the "repulsed by your weakness and ignorance" comment, well, I'll let that one alone. I would just wonder: do you ever use IBM products? Microsoft? How about Apple? Dell? All of these companies have made conscious efforts to reduce emissions and be more "green." Do you shun all of these companies as well? If so, I am wondering how you get anything done at all.
I think it's a very good initiative from Genuitec. Well done guys!
I must admit though, that when I read the heading I thought it was related to the Carbon implementation of SWT, on which MyEclipse is running and which gives some problems with certain parts of MyEclipse (e.g. the UML editor). I couldn't figure out what a near-zero footprint could mean in the context of the Carbon libs. A near-zero memory footprint? That would have been something :P But it turned out to be something quite different ;)
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Kirill Grouchnikov replied ago:
http://www.techbookreport.com/jb/joebloggs34.html
http://www.techbookreport.com/jb/joebloggs38.html
jenseck replied ago:
I understand if you think that companies doing anything "green" is a marketing ploy, but I must admit it's a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for businesses. The public wants to see sustainability issues address at all levels, and so asks you to be responsible. If you are not, you are seen as a bad world citizen. If you do, you get naysayers that say you only take action to get a PR boost. Lose, lose.
That said, note we are not just touting our own achievements. We are putting our money where our mouth is and even offsetting carbon emissions of others (travellers for EclipseWorld conference). This involves real dollars being exchanged by us towards addressing these global issues. I would hardly say that's a "do something for the sake of doing it" situation.
Planetary warming and its causes can be argued by people of good faith for extended periods of time. The emphasis here is that we are doing something that helps, something that takes action and real dollars on Genuitec's part.
I would reiterate the challenge posted in the blog in a different form: what are you doing to step up to the plate as an individual or company when it comes to this issue? Or will you simply berate others as disingenuous for attempting to do their part?
Eddie J Correia (of DaniWeb and BZMedia) has a nice writeup of the whole thing here: http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry2921.html
-Jens
prime21 replied ago:
Boo. Down with Genuitec for pushing the ball forward for the intellectually bankrupt. Over the last 100 years or so that man has been recording global temperature, the global temperature has increased less than one degree. That's it. That's what this whole "crisis" is about. Now ignore the fact that the earth has been worming ever since the ice age on its own. And ignore the fact that Mars and other planets/moons in our solar system are also warming (gee, I wonder if it is caused by that giant fireball in the sky?). No, no. Man and our CO2 emissions MUST be the cause of the warming... Ummm, even on other planets. Forget that CO2 makes up less that 3% of the total greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, and forget that of that 3% man is only responsible for about 3% of that -- a whopping 0.009% total. Forget that CO2 is what trees and plants breath and that the minor increase of CO2 has caused green biomass world wide to increase by over 6%. Yes forget all that. Instead we must frame this debate in a way that makes modern mankind look like the devil and virtual slavery at the hands of brutal taxation as the only solution.
This "debate" over man-made-global-warming is a joke. Let's just call it what it is. It's simply an excuse to advance a political ideology on wealthy nations, and YOU Genuitec are contributing to the cause of misinformation. Way to go.
Needless to say, I'm repulsed by your weakness and ignorance, and have no plans on doing business with a company as lame as yours.
-Bryan
jenseck replied ago:
Bryan;
This is obviously an issue you have researched and are passionate about. That's excellent. I really wish more people would be up on their research. As I said previously, we can argue causes and effects of global warming in good faith for extended periods. There may not be a single answer that solves the problem, if there is indeed a human cause.
However, that issue aside, Genuitec is reducing waste of paper, fossil fuels, and emissions. I cannot see how this is a BAD idea from any context. Being conscious of our impact and reducing waste in all its forms is a good idea for everyone, is it not?
We do not purport to be "green crazy," just responsible. Again, I fail to see how saving waste and not emitting pollutions is a bad idea.
As for the "repulsed by your weakness and ignorance" comment, well, I'll let that one alone. I would just wonder: do you ever use IBM products? Microsoft? How about Apple? Dell? All of these companies have made conscious efforts to reduce emissions and be more "green." Do you shun all of these companies as well? If so, I am wondering how you get anything done at all.
Thanks for the note,
Jens
prime21 replied ago:
Kirill, that was great! Thank you.
While we're at it, take a minute to test your knowledge about Global Warming
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/GlobWarmTest/start.html
henk replied ago:
I think it's a very good initiative from Genuitec. Well done guys!
I must admit though, that when I read the heading I thought it was related to the Carbon implementation of SWT, on which MyEclipse is running and which gives some problems with certain parts of MyEclipse (e.g. the UML editor). I couldn't figure out what a near-zero footprint could mean in the context of the Carbon libs. A near-zero memory footprint? That would have been something :P But it turned out to be something quite different ;)
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