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Gotta hand it to Oracle. They know how to play the system. Sue everyone's beloved Google, create a ton of news and then charge $1800 to hear the villain speak. Then take the $1800 you charged each of the thousands of attendees and pay the lawyers to continue suing...

Don't go to JavaOne. Want to send a message? Stop sending Oracle money.

Absolutely, death to Java

:-)
Some would agree - but if you want an open source-ish language that does everything what else is there?

Scala

Ring out the old ring in the good

One day it might be - but at the moment - its just not got the momentum and following of a mainstream language.

All it needs is a good web framework. Nobody would have given a s**t about Ruby if it was not for Rails. It is not about languages it is about what you can do with them and whether you can achieve it faster compared to your current tools.

I believe that Play 1.1 with Scala support due to be released later this year will provide if not exactly at least something like that.

Agree 100% - but when I told someone that I wasn't going to JavaOne in protest... they said you don't protest by not going to something... how do they know you were going in the first place?
I sort of understand what he was getting at.

Only go to that keynote if you want to throw eggs at him.

Just eggs... surely it should be something more appropriate?
Our old and soon to be useless phones?
:-)

should be a shoe, just like bush jr

@mjames: I hear you. On the surface it might sound like "doing something negative to achieve a positive". But is it really negative? Getting bodies in the doors at JavaOne is exactly what Ellison is going for. Even if you go with the thought of wearing a "Save Android" t-shirt, the real message is that $1800.

No matter what anyone tries to achieve at JavaOne... the message is where you put your money. Put it in Oracle's hands and they'll think only one thing: "Hey, this is working!"

Save the $1800. Or heck, take it and host a party in the parking lot across the street! You can do a lot with $1800. :-)

I really like the idea of spending the cash on a party across the street!
If we all did it then it would be the biggest protest "party" for a long while :-)

Being serious -
The problem really is that it is difficult to see how to stop spending cash with Oracle.
Yes I agree DONT go to JavaOne but what else?
I'm a Java user and Android developer and at the moment Oracle doesn't actually get a cent from me.
In the future however they may well find ways to force me to be a paying customer but at the moment my financial sanctions are very limited - to JavaOne in fact....

If you want to protest, change platform and language, Organize your team to use another tools and languages and not Java and spread the word in that way the quality of Java will fall down and Oracle could be in problems but remember one thing, Oracle does not give a damn about OSS, Java and Java community, They can continue using Java just for fortune 500 and let the cash cow flows alone, they dont care medium to small business ether, look at MySQL future and OpenSolaris. Do you know SAP? Do you know Abap? Abap a proprietary language to program SAP stuff that big customers pay lots of cash to use it well Thats Java with Oracle, figure.

"use another language" - like?
There are some other open source languages that are better than Java for some tasks but there isn't (but correct me please!) a single language with Java's overall support for just about every type of application you can think of.

Boycotting JavaOne should become a movement in the java community, because at the end of the day it is just an Oracle sales show, nothing more. The interesting stuff happens at Devoxx, Google I/O, et al.

A movement would be good.
Perhaps we need the equivalent of an open souce organisation for it?

As I said in Javalobby, If was not because Spring and Hibernate already Java was phased out as another cobol in the beginning of the 2000's, also another announcement that got a lot of people interested in Java again was that Sun will open source it around in 2005, In 2007 Java was in its pick with awesome frameworks as I mentioned Spring/Hibernate/Apache Portfolio, The new spec for JEE6, GPLed, F3/JavaFX was awesome that years but since the end of 2008 and the global crisis, The end of Sun, The failure of JavaFX, The departure of James Gosling as the father of Java and now the announcement of Oracle vs Google, I think Java and the Java community got hurt and a lot. If this September 20th at JavaOne Larry Ellison say another **** thing it will be the end, Yeah Yeah Yeah Java will continue for another 5 years but as new cobol just for the legacy, There will be not new development around the ecosystem. This JavaOne Larry needs to do something of change or great for Java so it can continue to grow or keep steady the ecosystem and community.

Also thanks to Opensource Java, The JVM got lots of development and people interested implementing another languages on top of the JVM as JRuby, Jython, Scala, Clojure, Phantom, etc if Sun did not open source the JVM it could be difficult to target the JVM as a multi-language VM. So if you get more languages on your VM it gets more richer. Thanks to OSS, Thanks to Apache, Thanks to Eclipse foundation, Thanks to Spring Source and thanks to JBoss and thanks to RedHat and thanks many many more Java/JVM is now the number one Language/Platform.

sorry system screwed up and posted the reply twice

I thought of a shoe as well - but would he get it?
Probably just ask that the other one was left at reception on the way out - and then open a shoe shop to make some more money :-).

Another interesting thought - I'm just about to change from using WMware as virtual test environments to VirtualBox (owned by Oracle) - is this a good idea? (from the point of view of it being a opensource in the future)

I have read about people starting to have more and more issues with it. Seems like Oracle is releasing buggy upgrades and people saw that as a sign that in the future it is gonna be behind a paywall.

I was talking to someone about the comments in this thread and they pointed out that - Oracle have a lot of OSS - Open Office, VirtualBox and MySQL being the big names. They also pointed out that if Oracle dump them as open source projects there are plenty of other people who can take over and continue the open source versions.
The problem really does come down to the patent threats that Oractle holds over the projects.
So perhaps getting the Android case out of the way will determine what happens to the rest.