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By mitchp
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Published: Dec 16 2011 / 15:36

As of August 24th 2011, we no longer have permission to redistribute new Java packages as Oracle has retired the “Operating System Distributor License for Java"
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Jacek replied ago:

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Oh Oracle....where is your brain?

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Miloskov replied ago:

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This means Oracle dooming Java?, Closing Java openness?, If is like that It Blows big time.

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stimpy77 replied ago:

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No it means OpenJDK is the only way to go for OS distros now. That's good news, in a way, since it weans people off the so-called "official Java" proprietary flavor.

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stimpy77 replied ago:

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*chuckles*

I am so tempted to troll right now ..

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DonaldOJDK replied ago:

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Hi, I'm Donald Smith, I'm on the Java SE PM team and work for Oracle.

This is old information, the retiring of the DLJ took place over the summer, more information can be found here [1]. We received a lot of positive feedback on this move towards encouraging more participation in OpenJDK. There are a number of organizations and dedicated individuals working hard on OpenJDK, and there are a number of long standing distros based on it. Organizations like Canonical are able to build on their own, or point to one of the other gratis implementations available - including the Oracle JDK.

[1] - http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html

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Miloskov replied ago:

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Well that explains better, so Oracle is trying to focus on OpenJDK so all the java community gets into it, That is great. In the other hand Oracle will try to monetize Java, one of the things more opinionated of Java and Sun.

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DonaldOJDK replied ago:

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The best explanation of what you're describing can be found here [1]. Basically,the 'monetize Java' is really just continuing the commercial enterprise oriented features found in JRockit - basically continuing the products brought into Oracle from the BEA acquisition. That's the not-so-secret plan announced last year.

[1] - http://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/jrockit_is_now_free_and

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Miloskov replied ago:

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That clears a lot, Thank you!.

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Jacek replied ago:

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Thank you for your explanation. However, this move (even if it helps OpenJDK) does introduce some issues. There is a lot of software that only works properly with the Sun JDK browser plugin (e.g. Juniper VPN, which we use for remote logging into our work system). It does not work properly with the OpenJDK or IcedTea plugin. Without the Sun JDK in the Ubuntu repos, this will mean a complex and error prone manual install...

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osbald replied ago:

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So you believe forcefully removing Sun JDK from users servers like this is a good idea, having running servers suddenly fail on their next update because empty packages have been pushed without warning. You say this is old news then how come it isn't more widely known that devops need to get upgrading and testing with OpenJDK before these disruptive updates roll out.

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DonaldOJDK replied ago:

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DonaldOJDK replied ago:

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Dang, sorry for spam - hit "Add" too soon and then the "edit" option 403'd on me.

A comment I saw on /. noting what Gentoo did in August - http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2580042&cid=38416244

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RawThinkTank replied ago:

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sure but Ubuntu not shipping it is an HUGE dent on you visible only now.

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