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By tripy
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Published: May 28 2008 / 14:56

I don't stand ORM, I hate the Kid templating system, and the turbogears url mapping is terrible. But I would like to use it so much that it depress me.
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mikkelg replied ago:

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Voted down because the author has formulated uninformed, negative opinions based solely around TurboGears, and applied those opinions to Python web frameworks as a whole.

There are plenty of frameworks that rock in Python, choose the right tool for the task,
http://wiki.python.org/moin/WebFrameworks

Also, Rails is not the only Ruby framework - there are many, many others.

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callmegod replied ago:

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Django is good.

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tripy replied ago:

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It's true that it's more geared towards turboGears, and that I do not have explored the myriad of other frameworks yet.
At first look, and after reading some blog post and documentation, I've discarded Django (maybe an error)
Zope look like it's a cms, and it's not what I'm looking for.
Furthermore, I'm looking for something WSGI compliant, and that I can plug into apache.

You have to admit that they are so many, that I cannot review all of them.
Certainly other frameworks will address some of my grips, but not all.

This post first started as a scream, and ended as a question: "What do you use when you don't want to use ORM

Thanks to the comments I've received on my blog, I am slowly going towards an web.py for the business, psycopg2 for the DB layer and Amara for XML + XSL outputting as the view engine.

In the end, it looks like I'm going to replicate my PHP standard environment to Python.

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herval replied ago:

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oh, you discarded the two biggest frameworks in python in your 'research'.
oh...

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tripy replied ago:

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I did not do any research. And if Django is one of them, which is the other one ?

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