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By bloid
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Published: Sep 15 2008 / 23:37

It seems to me that Griffon (brand new Groovy-based Swing MVC-structured framework) has identified the dark underbelly of the Java desktop world—there are no guidelines for how an application's sources should be structured. Two of the bloggers I read today on the excellent http://groovyblogs.org confirm this
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alpha512 replied ago:

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Groovy and Griffon really is getting very interesting, it gets the job done quick. I think we don't need JavaFX, even JavaFX at this point doesn't have standard controls(Yes still a preview), they dropped swing for the scenegraph and that is because the mobile market Sun wants to manage but there are millions of Java programmers that doesn't do mobile and really we dont need to much eye candy "We just want a better way to do java desktop applications" but I think JavaFX doesn't deliver it, But Groovy with Griffon it delivers and pretty good. Also I can use JSE6_10 with Groovy/SwingBuilder/Griffon and it rocks.

Note:I like JavaFX(Java2D with SceneGraph is cool) and I have doing some basic programming with it but I'm not sure where it will go all this or it is just a hype?.
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