By bloid
via hiveminds.co.uk
Published: Dec 04 2008 / 18:47
Not vaporware in its true sense but in essence PHP 5.3 and PHP6 is on a similar road the PERL6 has taken. Perl 6 is taking years to development but has nothing to show in the way of a solid stable release.
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Loïc Hoguin replied ago:
http://news.php.net/php.internals/42101
Chill out, guys. It's getting done.
OtengiM replied ago:
dragmire replied ago:
Once again, you rant against PHP with nothing to back it. Are you ever going to find something to aim your bitterness for being a horrible programmer toward?
eric32 replied ago:
Wow. You've just stereotyped an entire culture of programmers and insulted a language that was based off C, one of the most solid languages ever. The problem is not PHP, but the fact that it is a "kitchen sink" web programming language and it can do things in an innumerable amount of ways. PHP is a solid language that has lots of great features. There are millions of people that speak english, but speak it properly. Just because there are hordes of bad programmers that learned to write bad code by writing PHP doesn't make it the languages fault. And btw, perl is an excellent programming language. Perl 6 will be well worth the wait.
OtengiM replied ago:
Im agree with you that Perl 6 will be well worth the wait , It will destroy PHP,Python,Ruby and everything around but PHP based on C?, I thought PHP(Personal Home Page) was based on some perl scripts ala Mason and yes is an ugly kitchen sink with a Cish syntax.
eric32 replied ago:
Actually, it's "Hypertext Preprocessor".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Php
"Zeev Suraski and Andi Gutmans, two Israeli developers at the Technion IIT, rewrote the parser in 1997 and formed the base of PHP 3, changing the language's name to the recursive initialism PHP: Hypertext Preprocessor."
I guess the point I was trying to make is that PHP is not the reason that tons of bad programmers were created using PHP, it's the programmers fault themselves for not learning to do it the right way. There is a good way to use PHP, just look at projects like Swift Mailer and Drupal, and you'll see this. But PHP allows you to do things so many different ways that you can create crappy code very easily. I don't think that a language should be the "enforcer" of writing good code, but the programmer should enforce his own level of quality. A good programmer should be able to produce a quality program in any language.
antych replied ago:
It took years for many people to switch from 4 to 5 and some of them didn't even do that, so latest feature hardly matter for majority of users.
Anyway, most php developers never use it to its full potential, it already grown beyond what they can handle.
Also, look at multitude of php frameworks, many of them actively developed, do you still think php is endangered in any way?
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