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There's an angle to this debate that I missed during the prevention v. cure series I did last month. It surfaced in a lunchtime conversation I had today with two test managers in our e-home division (these are the guys that test the Media Center PC and other such delights). Michael Friend, a Group Test Manager who's been around the empire far longer than I have, gave an interesting perspective: "you know automation has gained too much of a foothold when your testers feel more vested in their test code than in the product they're shipping."