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By prashantdeva
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Published: Jul 18 2011 / 10:47

Is the traditional debugger still relevant in 2011?
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Jonathan Fisher replied ago:

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This is just an infomercial... no 'news' here.

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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Jonathan Fisher replied ago:

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Sure. The answer provided in the article is incorrect. The traditional debugger works great. I used it today. So did my coworker. So did several people in my division, and several thousand around the world. So to answer the question, "is it still relevant in 2011?" is simply: absolutely, undoubtedly, without question, yes. I know this isn't the way you want us to see it, but to the overwhelming majority, it is the truth. Sometimes you just need something simple and it's "good enough" to get the job done.

Second, the real reason for my post, is that there is Chronon spam all over DZone. We get it, you guys invented something new. Congrats. I don't care if independent reviewers find your tools useful, but as I suspected, Chronon is likely behind a majority of the spam. DZone is not the forum for that. You should pay for advertisements rather than game the system. That's probably not convenient for a startup, but that's ethical business practices, hence my downvote and my comment.

Chronon being closed source makes no bearing on my opinion. There are plenty of annoying open source devs.

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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Jonathan Fisher replied ago:

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Sorry, I thought I was clear. I don't like two things:

* The tone of the article suggests all solutions but Chronon are irrelevant. This isn't true.
* This isn't an independent review of Chronon, but the description or title don't mention this. You have to read to the bottom of the article, and it's implied strongly, but that should be stated outright before the user opens the article. As such, this is commercial spam because it's unsolicited.

I never said I didn't like Chronon debugger. Go back and read what I wrote.

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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cj91.myopenid.com replied ago:

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Again, I have no opinion of Chronon Debugger. You invented something neat. Congrats. You can stop throwing straw man arguments my way.

I've been only speaking on the merits of your post to DZone. A better title would have been, "Prashant Deva, CTO of Chronon, asks "Is the traditional debugger relevant in 2011?""

That title states to the user clear intention about who wrote the article without them having to read to the bottom of the article. The dzone reader can decide at that point in time whether or not he wishes to read the article knowing full well that it is likely to be slanted in favor of Chronon. This is called full disclosure. It's *honest*, _ethical_, journalism. That's all we're asking for. Is Chronon a company we can trust?

As a potential user, I'm a little aggravated at this point. It really wouldn't have taken much to admit the title or description was slightly biased.

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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cj91.myopenid.com replied ago:

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Looks like Chronon Systems is company we should all stay away from!

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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cj91.myopenid.com replied ago:

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a comment from a egomaniac unfamiliar with the definition of a "Straw Man Argument" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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cj91.myopenid.com replied ago:

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you don't cease to amaze me

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prashantdeva replied ago:

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Yurik Tyrant replied ago:

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