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Published: Jul 25 2008 / 04:15

The SOAP stack for Web services was branded a failure this week by Tim Bray, a Sun Microsystems technologist and co-inventor of XML, who hailed the REST (Representational State Transfer) mechanism as a SOAP alternative.
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killerweb replied ago:

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Finally someone worth a crap said it. Death to SOAP, long live KISS XML.

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paul_houle replied ago:

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SOAP and the associated MS-stack must go, but it's a big problem that people think that REST = !SOAP

Most people are going to be happy with a ~working~ (!SOAP) RPC communications system, and would be better off with POX (plain old XML), JSON, or XML-RPC rather than REST, which will be unreliable and slow in many applications.

For instance, if you used REST to implement a banking application in the obvious way, you might implement a transfer by (i) withdrawing from account A, (ii) depositing to account B in two web services call. To do that safely, you need to wrap everything in a distributed transaction, which is a whole lot of trouble.

You ~could~ PUT a document that represents the transfer and do the whole thing in one step, but that's asking a lot from a developer community that still doesn't know what REST is.

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pt93903 replied ago:

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Goodbye SOAP and good riddance.

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xcdesz replied ago:

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REST isn't the solution for SOAPs complexity...

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joe.ingres replied ago:

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When I finish dancin' on SOAP's grave can I go shoot WSDL as well?

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