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I think too little; too late. Certainly in the web development Java's time has passed. We don't even consider java for new web based projects anymore because it is too expensive.

I don't think Java's time as a web development language has passed at all. I think Java proper is going to remain the workhorse of enterprise Web application development for some time to come yet.

For smaller applications? I think Java's future is brighter than it has ever been, although the language these applications are written in will not be Java, but one of the other languages running ontop of the JVM. Perhaps Ruby on Rails running under JRuby for example. This would allow Ruby on Rails programmers to take full advantage of the enormous number of Java libraries out there.

I use open source java tools almost exclusively. The exception being my IDE (IntelliJ IDEA) which I could easily replace with either open source Netbeans or open source Eclipse. I think we are about to see a big explosion of java web apps as many frameworks are simplifying and teams are getting comfortable with AJAX.

All I want to know is, will I finally get Java.NET now?

I think enterprises using java will like the main benefit of open sourcing java will have:
vendor neutrality - meaning if Sun goes bankrupt, gets taken over, or for whatever reason decide to pull support for Java;
Java will live on (or something named something else with Java's codebase)

Not that questions like these are worthless, but the article is really stupid.

First of all ... the examples of open-source Java implementations are wrong ... what's a stupid Java web ring and an Ajax framework doing in there ?

And then, as the ultimate proof for the loss of "mind share" it gives an article that basically says ... "book sales for Java open-source *frameworks* have increased, and Java still the leader" ... I mean ... WTF ?

And mean ... why give a sh*it about actual facts, when you can be ignorand or plain stupid ?

Not to be disrespectful to all those wonderfull open-source implementations (like GCJ, IKVM, ECJ and Classpath which weren't mentioned) ... but people prefer comodity over freedom, and almost everybody is using the reference implementation, simply because it is multi-platform, and because it is complete (all open-source implementations having multiple problems).

Not to mention ... there won't be any competiotion with .NET anymore if Java SE goes trully open-source ... because at that time Java SE will stop being a product.
The true competition of Java is (and will be in the long term) the current LAMP stack.


Has anybody else noticed that DZONE articles really suck ?
Where's that wizdom of the crowds everybody talks about ?